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    MOT & headlamp washers

    got MOT coming up this week - asked garage to disable headlamp washers (tired of the amount of fluid they use/waste) and told it will fail an MOT - really?

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    I imagine your car will have Xenon/HID headlights and so headlight washers are a legal requirement and part of the MOT inspection process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    I imagine your car will have Xenon/HID headlights and so headlight washers are a legal requirement and part of the MOT inspection process.
    Hi - no standard 2014 Mk3 Elegance with "normal" headlights

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    In that case they are not required.
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 7.5x18 Alutec Monstr wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    In that case they are not required.
    That is good news - thanks very much :-)

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    It will be recorded as a minor defect (if fitted then they should work) but will will not fail as a result of not working.

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    Recorded if not required?
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 7.5x18 Alutec Monstr wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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    Yep, under the new MOT regulations they're noted to be fitted and not working.

    4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning devices

    You must inspect vehicles first used on or after 1 September 2009 equipped with headlamp washers.

    You can identify HID headlamps from:

    ‘DCR’ mark on the headlamp lens or body
    an igniter module or inverter behind the headlamp
    taking a few seconds to reach full intensity
    a bluish tinge to the light

    HID headlamps use high voltage. You should take care when inspecting these headlamps.
    Defect Category

    Headlamp cleaning device:



    inoperative

    Minor

    inoperative in the case of LED or gas discharge systems (HID)

    Major

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    In that case they are not required.
    You 100% sure about that?

    The MOT Test Guidelines have said for many years (and my reading of the 2018 revision didn't change that aspect) that IF FITTED headlight washers must work, regardless of the type of headlamp fitted.

    The MOT requirements are not the same as the legal requirements (stupid but true), which don't require headlamp washers for either halogen headlamp or HID headlamps with an output less than 2000 Lumen.

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    I will ask my MOT chap on Tuesday, I still regularly see illegal HID conversions on customers cars and cars I see on the road, for some reason owners of the Golf 5 seem to be the worst offenders and almost invariably young men.
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 7.5x18 Alutec Monstr wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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